Georgetown & Western / Great Western 2-8-0 "Consolidation" Locomotives in the USA


Class Details by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class 121 (Locobase 15116)

Data from Baldwin Locomotive Works Specification for Engines as digitized by the DeGolyer Library of Southern Methodist University Volume 43, p. 142+. Works number was 39425 in March 1913.

This freight Consolidation joined the G&W only two years before it was merged with Seaboard subsidiary Carolina, Atlantic & Western, which rolled into the Seaboard itself by the end of 1915.

Sold to the Lightsey Brothers, the 121 was lettered in 1937 for the Hampton & Branchville. It served the H&B until placed in storage in 1955.


Class 51 (Locobase 12988)

Data from Baldwin Locomotive Works Specification for Engines as digitized by the DeGolyer Library of Southern Methodist University Volume 29, p. 132. (Thanks to Chris Hohl for his 12 May 2021 email noting the 51's conversion to oil-firing.) Works numbers were 28665, 28676 in July 1906.

This pair of Consolidations operated on the independent sugar-beet railroad until they were retired in the 1950s. 52 retired in April 1952 and scrapped while 51 lingered to be sold to Boulder Scientific in 1963.

According to Wes Barris's Surviving Locomotives website, the 51 wound up operating on the Fillmore & Western Railway in Fillmore, Calif, from which it was bought by Jim Birmingham and moved back to Hudson, Colo.

Chris Hohl provided the following, which illuminates the various considerations affecting tourist train operations: "]. After the Vancouver Expo 1986 (where it appears to have won an award for the smokiest locomotive in attendance), #51 operated at the Yakima Valley Rail & Steam Museum (now the Northern Pacific Railway Museum). After setting multiple fires trackside, #51 was converted to an oil-burner. "


Class 60 (Locobase 4811)

Data from http://www.brwrr.com/brwsp60.htm website. (Thanks to Chris Hohl for his 12 May 2021 email providing the correct firebox heating surface area.) Works number was 69021 in 1937.

The majestically named Great Western Railway of Colorado linked Eaton and Longmont (north of Denver) over 42 miles of track that chiefly saw sugar beet traffic. So a sturdy light Consolidation of typical American design would fill the bill just fine. One correspondent writes of seeing GW trains passing through the middle of his farm in Windsor and refers to 60 in particular.

This particular engine later wound up on the Black River & Western Railroad of western New Jersey for excursion operations.


Class 75 (Locobase 13169)

Data from Baldwin Locomotive Works Specification for Engines as digitized by the DeGolyer Library of Southern Methodist University Volume 30, p. 279. (Thanks to Chris Hohl for his 12 May 2021 email supplying original and subsequent coal capacities.) Works number was 31778 in September 1907.

Like the other locomotives procured for this private Colorado sugar-beet road, the 75 remained in service until the road was closed. In the 1930s, the GW increased coal capacity to 18 tons (16.4 metric tons).

In storage for years, the 75 was sold to the National Railroad Historical Society in December 1966. It was then stored at Rocky Mountain Arsenal.

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media
Class121516075
Locobase ID15116 12988 4811 13169
RailroadGeorgetown & WesternGreat WesternGreat WesternGreat Western
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte2-8-02-8-02-8-02-8-0
Number in Class1211
Road Numbers12151-526075
GaugeStdStdStdStd
Number Built1211
BuilderBurnham, Williams & CoBurnham, Williams & CoAlco-SchenectadyBurnham, Williams & Co
Year1913190619371907
Valve GearStephensonStephensonWalschaertStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)14.17 / 4.3214.17 / 4.3214 / 4.2714.33 / 4.37
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)21.17 / 6.4521.83 / 6.6522.33 / 6.8122.42 / 6.83
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.67 0.65 0.63 0.64
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)50.92 / 15.5257.20 / 17.43
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)130,000 / 58,967119,000 / 53,978141,500 / 64,183150,000 / 68,039
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)143,000 / 64,864132,000 / 59,874161,000 / 73,028165,000 / 74,843
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)100,000 / 45,359120,000 / 54,431149,600 / 67,857140,000 / 63,503
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)243,000 / 110,223252,000 / 114,305310,600 / 140,885305,000 / 138,346
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)5000 / 18.947000 / 26.528000 / 30.307000 / 26.52
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)8 / 712 / 1116
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)54 / 2750 / 2559 / 29.5063 / 31.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)52 / 132152 / 132151 / 129552 / 1321
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)180 / 12.40190 / 13.10200 / 13.80200 / 13.80
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)20" x 26" / 508x66020" x 26" / 508x66019" x 26" / 483x66020" x 26" / 508x660
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)30,600 / 13879.9432,300 / 14651.0531,287 / 14191.5634,000 / 15422.16
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.25 3.68 4.52 4.41
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)280 - 2" / 51280 - 2" / 51158 - 2" / 51320 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)28 - 5.375" / 137
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)13.46 / 4.1013.46 / 4.1012.50 / 3.8113.37 / 4.08
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)138.80 / 12.89138.80 / 12.90158 / 14.68188 / 17.47
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)31.30 / 2.9131.30 / 2.9130.10 / 2.8033.26 / 3.09
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2114 / 196.402115 / 196.561674 / 155.522415 / 224.44
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)414 / 38.46
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2114 / 196.402115 / 196.562088 / 193.982415 / 224.44
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume223.70223.81196.25255.56
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation5634594760206652
Same as above plus superheater percentage5634594772246652
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area24,98426,37237,92037,600
Power L14635489512,3366154
Power MT314.41362.74768.80361.79

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